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Dear Mr. Smith,
Would John Hagge's message of there being only one eternity be scriptural if he used the
term everlasting, instead of for ever and ever?
Secondly, I am amazed at a simple flaw you made, the bible
was originally written in the early Aramic precursor to Hebrew and Greek.
Thirdly, let me say that while you make some good points, I
do not agree with you nor shall I ever. I must admit however, that your site provides an
interesting look at some of Christianity's most controversial issues.
[Ray Replies]
Dear Mr. Nameless:
Thank you for you interesting comments.
If you are referring to the word "Aramaic," let me present you with this bit of
factual and historical information:
Aramaic was a Semite language known since the NINTH century B.C. (remember that David
lived five or six hundred years earlier than this), and Moses who is credited with writing
the first five books of the Bible lived considerably earlier than King David.
Certainly long BEFORE the ninth century which is the first historical acquaintance with
the language of "Aramaic."
Actually the language of Aramaic was adopted by Jews, however, not BEFORE the first
Scriptures were written, but rather AFTER the Babylonian exile! Historians tell us
that the Aramaic language looked more like, "The square Hebrew alphabet as
distinguished from the EARLY HEBREW ALPHABET."
Have you seen any of these Aramaic Scriptures that PREDATE the Hebrew and Greek language?
And, John Hagee's messages would not be scriptural no matter WHAT
words he would use!
God be with you,
Ray
Hi Ray!
I've been looking at these words 'aion' and 'aionan'--I've read your paper to John Hagee
as well as read some other similar studies on the tentmaker site.
I came across an interesting paper with a slightly different take on
these words. I think you may be interested to read this writing.
http://www.growthingod.org.uk/AEONRELM.HTM
God bless!
Mike
[Ray Replies]
Dear Mike:
Thank you for the link on the "aions."
I have come to see over the years, that there are often well-meaning scholars who seem to
be 100% accurate in their scholarship, when in reality, they have major flaws.
This researcher makes numerous assertions that he says are absolutely certain, that are
not as he says.
Here are a couple, as I didn't read the whole paper, and don't have time to critique it in
its entirety:
He states that Hebrew "olams" NEVER, EVER mean "age." That statement
is NOT Scripturally true. Numbers 25:13 speaks of the priesthood of Aaron, and we read
this: "And he shall have it, and his seed after him, even the covenant of an
EVERLASTING [Heb. 'olam'] priesthood...." We now know for a Scriptural FACT that this
priesthood was NOT "everlasting," but rather lasted for an "age"--a
long period of time having a beginning and an ending. We see in the book of Hebrews that
this very priesthood NO LONGER EXISTS! The temple is gone and the tribe of Levi is gone.
And so, it was an "age-abiding" or "eonian" priesthood, not an
"everlasting" one.
He states that Hebrew "olams" are always periods that CANNOT BE SEEN OR KNOWN.
This likewise, is an UNscriptural statement. Often a man's lifetime is called an
"olam," and when a person is born and when he dies is NOT an unknowable period
of time. Likewise the three days of Jonah's trial was is absolutely KNOWABLE.
One more: to suggest that the context can determine whether an "olam" is a short
period of time or an longer period of time, or ETERNITY, can be deduced from the context.
Hence when speaking of God, olams ALWAYS MEAN ETERNAL OR EVERLASTING. That's just not
true. NOwhere will you find a statement in either the Old Testament or the New Testament
where olam or aion is used with reference to God and then inserts a restrictive word such
as "only." When stating that God is an "eonian God," it never
adds the word "only." As though God lives for the eons, ONLY! That is all
unscriptural human reasoning. Statements of FACT are never statements of RESTRICTION
unless there are restrictive words present!! That God is "the God of Abraham, Isaac,
and Jacob" by no means suggests that He is the God of these three men ONLY!!
Okay, one more: this author states that Heb. 1:2, "...makes the eons
[ages]...." has to be translated world even though he concedes that God did
"make the aions or ages." And his proof for this assertion? He has not
proof. He just makes the statement that this is speaking of a material creation and ages
aren't material. God also "breathed" into Adam (breath is not material). The
finished product of man was "a living soul." The soul of man is not material.
Let's go back further: "Let there be LIGHT." Is light made out of material?
Besides, how could Jesus have "made the worldS." How many "worlds" are
there? There is but ONE WORLD. It should be translated "ages" as even my King
James says in the margin.
Thanks a gain, and God be with you,
Ray
Maybe I'll take another look at his paper another time.
My husband and I read your article on tithing
with such enthusiasm. We knew that this was the word of God for this hour. It is
unfortunate that many people are subjected to such abusive methods of con artistry.
One question though, what mainstream ministry has received your
teaching and has decided to re-teach the differences between tithing under the old
testament and giving under the dispensation of Grace (new testament) according to the
word?
I can recall when my husband ad I were subjected to this error
regarding our finances also. We were told that if you don't give you are going to be
cursed. We thank God that our eyes have definitely been open and now we minister the
same word. We are telling people as the Spirit of the Lord leads us about the error of
tithing and how it is pervasive in certain churches. We do however believe in giving and
sometimes we don't have it to give but we thank God for his abundance and we are glad that
others are finally catching on and listening to the word and rightly dividing.
Thank you sincerely with love and prayer
[Ray Replies]
Dear Maureen:
I am glad that the tithing paper was helpful for you and your husband.
I know of no mainstream church that does not teach and demand tithes from their
congregation. There are some independent ministers who have emailed me and said that they
would not longer teach tithing after reading my paper, but there are not denominations.
And I don't believe there ever will be any mainstream denominations that will ever teach
the Truths of God.
There are churches that will allow you to attend without paying tithes, however. I don't
attend any institutionalized churches of men.
God be with you,
Ray
[more on same subject]
How are we to build churches and have a Ministry without the Tithe.
I do admit some have taken it to the extreme. However I would not
want to be in your shoes should you be wrong and I think you are.
Pastor ...
[Ray Replies]
Dear Pastor ...:
Thank you for your email and question. I only wish all of my email questions were this
easy to answer.
"How are we to build churches and have a Ministry without the Tithe?" Well,
let's ask ourselves if it has ever been done before? Has anyone in the past built a church
and have a ministry without the tithe? As a matter of fact, THEY HAVE!
Jesus Christ said, "I will BUILD My church..." (Matt. 16:18).
James understood that there was a church to be built among the Gentiles, "After
this I will return and will BUILD again the tabernacle of David..."
(Acts 15:15-16). Paul instructs us further in this building process of the church,
"According to the grace of God which is given unto me,
as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another builds thereon. But let
every man TAKE HEED HOW HE BUILDS thereupon" (I Cor. 3:10).
This most stern warning is given to us because Paul is not speaking
of properly laying or building with bricks and mortar, but with the LIVES of precious
people, "...YE ARE God's building" (Verse 9)!
"Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this TEMPLE, and in three days I
will raise it up. [how much MONEY do you suppose that would take, Pastor?]
Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and will you rear it
up in three days? But He spake of the TEMPLE OF HIS BODY" (John
2:19-21).
"For we know that if our earthly house of this
tabernacle were dissolved, we have a BUILDING of God, an house NOT MADE WITH HANDS [how
much money you reckon a fine building like this would cost, Pastor?]..."
(II Cor. 5:1).
"Know you not that YOU ARE THE TEMPLE OF GOD, and that
the Spirit of God dwells IN YOU?" (I Cor. 3:16).
That's because,
"God that made the world and all things therein, seeing
that He is Lord of heaven and earth, DWELLS NOT IN TEMPLES MADE WITH HANDS"
(Acts 17:24).
No, God does not "dwell" in temples and buildings made
with hands, but SATAN "DWELLS" in carnal churches made with hands (Rev.
2:13)!
The reason the church today is bankrupt is because they have FAR TOO MUCH MONEY and FAR
TOO LITTLE SPIRIT!
But let's assume for a minute that you are one of those unique
rarities that have the Spirit of God and desire to build an actual physical building to
meet in (minus all the traditional phallus-shaped windows, steeples, and other such pagan
filth, of course). How would you do it? You could do it with MONEY. But where would
get the money? Well, you wouldn't want to steal it from the bank and you wouldn't
want to steal it from the congregation by fraudulently telling them that they must give
you ten percent of their annual salaries or God will CURSE THEM WITH A CURSE, that's for
sure. No, you could take up VOLUNTARY CONTRIBUTIONS. THAT'S how Jesus financed His
ministry, and THAT'S how the apostles and Paul financed their ministry, and none of them
were really into stained-glass windows and such religious paraphernalia. They all
believed and taught that "...God LOVES A CHEERFUL GIVER" (II
Cor. 9:7), and therefore never ever deigned to stoop so low as to threaten God's called
ones with CURSES if they didn't TITHE their salaries. These were men of FAITH. They
TRUSTED GOD for their every need. They didn't fraudulently fleece the flocks with
unscriptural land produce tithes from the bygone laws of Moses.
Jesus didn't take or teach His followers to tithe to Him; the apostles didn't take or
teach their followers to tithe to them; and Paul didn't take or teach his followers to
tithe to him. This is a simple and factual truth of both history and the Scriptures, and
anyone to tries to imply otherwise will be severely judged by The Righteous Judge in that
day!
Hope this helps your understanding a little better regarding the evil and unscriptural
practice of teaching Christians to tithe they paychecks to a man or a church.
May God be with you and richly bless you as you seek His perfect will for you life and
ministry,
Ray
Ray,
I know you mentioned in one of your email replies to someone regarding baptism and that
you probably will have a paper on the subject in the future - I'd like that! Can you shed
some light on this subject... I understand what you have explained about there being only
one baptism and doing physical things do not obtain spiritual things; however, our
(physical) church stresses the importance on the book of Acts, what the apostles teach.
They explain that the apostles baptized (AFTER Christ died) and therefore, we must be
baptized. What you have explained makes sense, but how come the apostles did teach
baptism? I looked up each verse that had baptism in it and most of them didn't say WATER
baptism, so I suppose you could take that either way, whether it was water or spiritual.
The main verses they use to support this is Acts 3:15 (? I'm
guessing here since I'm at work and without a bible. The one in which people ask,
"What should we do to be saved?" And the apostles reply, "Repent of your
sins, be baptized, and filled with the Holy Spirit." or something very much like
that. I'm sure you know what I'm referring to.) The other story is also in Acts, don't ask
me where, but where the eunuch just HAS to get baptized right then and there after hearing
the gospel and he jumps in to a body of water. It does seem that the apostles did baptize,
but maybe I'm missing something here.
If you, Mike, or any other of your friends could help explain this
area, we will then pretty much have all the pieces of the puzzle. (The only other piece is
tongues, but I don't feel like getting into that subject yet.) Why does that eunuch get
baptized in water if it wasn't necessary? Or is it a sign of something? I don't know, I'm
so new at all of this.
All I can say, is THANK YOU for putting all the info that you do on
the website.
Keep it up and keep it coming!
Warm Regards,
Margaret
[Ray Replies]
Dear Margaret:
Most people don't realize that there was a transition period from the end of Christ's
ministry and the writing of Revelation. Most of the converts to Christianity continued to
KEEP THE LAW OF MOSES as did the unbelievers. They were so zealous for the law of Moses,
in fact, that they insisted that Paul and others force the Gentile converts to be law
keepers as well. At the Jerusalem Conference mentioned in Acts 15 it is clear that the
Apostles did not longer believe that Gentile converts had to be circumcised or follow any
of the other laws of Moses. They were to live by a much higher spiritual law including the
commandments to LOVE YOUR ENEMIES.
Paul baptized in the beginning of his ministry. Late he said, "The Lord has not
called me to baptize." All the institutionalized churches of men know is the
physical. Some have even said that, "The physical IS THE SPIRITUAL." What rank
nonsense. All physical rituals (baptism is a physical ritual) are types and shadows of
spiritual realities. When we have the reality, why should we still look to the type or
shadow? Would you sooner have the "shadow" that a new house casts on the
grown, the the "new house" that casts the shadow?
Jesus Christ is the spiritual reality of ALL TYPES AND SHADOWS. "Jesus Christ
is the END of the law."
God be with you,
Ray
Dear Mr. Smith,
In your reply to Dugan in "What about Hitler?" you profess 1 John 4:14,
"...the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world." to mean that all
WILL be saved. You even suggest that if even a single person were not saved, then
that would mean God and Jesus were a failure. Of course, we can all agree that God
is not (nor could ever be) a failure. But if a man chooses not to accept the gracious gift
of salvation through faith in Jesus Christ (see Eph. 2:8) then it is the man who has
failed, not God nor His perfect plan. God's perfect plan, should one choose to
believe in it, WILL yield one's salvation.
But does 1 John 4:14 really mean that ALL will be saved or does it just mean what it says,
that "...the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world."? If I
send my son to go to my neighbor's house and offer my neighbor a gift, yet my son returns
home with the gift still in his hand because the neighbor refused the gift, does that make
either my son or I a failure? I don't think so since my son had accomplished what he was
sent to do which was to offer a gift.
In the same reply, you make the definitive statement that "ALL MANKIND will be
saved" and then reference 1 Tim. 2:4. However, 1 Tim. 2:4 does not say that.
It reads in the KJV & NKJV, "Who will have all men to be saved,..."
In all other bible versions it reads, "who wants all men to be saved",
"who wishes all men to be saved", "who desires all men to be save",
etc., etc., etc...
Also in your reply to Dugan, you ask him, "why should it seem a thing impossible that
God Almighty should save a puny wimp of a sinner like Hitler?" all the while
comparing Hitler to the apostle Paul. First of all, I don't think anyone doubts
God's ability to save Hitler nor anyone, but rather Hitler's ability to receive God's gift
through faith. Second, while Paul does admit he was the greatest sinner that ever
lived, he makes this confession long before Hitler's time. And, while Paul may have
wanted to persecute Christians, Hitler actually engaged in attempted genocide.
As for your reference to Philippians 2:9-11, I cannot see where this implies
salvation nor freedom from punishment, only that ALL will bow to Christ and ALL will
confess Christ is Lord, for even the slaves bowed to and confessed their masters' as lord.
In your reply to Allen in "Blaspheme Against the Holy Spirit" you state that you
know of, "a DOZEN Bible Translations covering a period of centuries that do not
translate "iaon" or "iaonion" into "everlasting" or
"eternal," but rather "eonian" or "age-abiding.""
As for me, it seems trivial to debate God's time descriptive adjective for the
"fire" as eternal or age-abiding. Both are too long for me and, either
way, I choose life (through faith)!
In many of your replies you ask the people who write to you, "Do you believe these
scriptures?" I must admit I find your continued use of the word these versus
the to be quite curious. But, in anticipation I will answer, yes, I do believe the
scriptures. And, after reading most of the letters on your web site I don't doubt
anyone's belief in the scriptures (including yourself). Perhaps a more relevant
question to ask that would be of greater service is, "Do you understand the
scriptures?" I would be the first to admit I do not understand much of the
scriptures I have read and will continue to study and ask God for understanding.
In closing I would like to add that no one can, nor is expected to, know everything about
God and his perfect plan according to His word. God is sovereign and only reveals
that which He allows us to know. 1 Timothy 3:9 teaches us to hold "the mystery
of the faith with a pure conscience" not a perfect understanding. Isaiah 40:28
tells us that "His understanding is unsearchable."
I truly appreciate your web site and the work you put into spreading the good news of
Christ. If the tone of my letter causes you to believe otherwise, please accept my
sincerest apology.
Your brother in Christ,
Norm
[Ray Replies]
Dear Norm:
Thank you for you email and comments.
If you were to read my series on the "The Lake of Fire" you would have learned
that trying to turn I Tim. 2:4 from God's "will" to His "desire"
changes nothing! I prove from the Scriptures themselves that that God's
"desire" "good pleasure" "counsel" "word" etc.,
are just as strong as His "will." God says that if he has so much as
"spoken it" it WILL come to pass.
There is a giant giant difference between "age-abiding" which comes to and end
and "eternity" which does not.
All of your arguments are based on the erroneous and stupid wisdom of this world that
teaches man has a "free will" or "free moral agency" as it is
sometimes called. Nothing could be further from the Scriptural Truth!!
It is the Church that teaches that it is up to each and every individual to come to Christ
and accept His gift of salvation. Jesus plainly tells us that "NO MAN CAN come to Him
except the Father draw him" [Greek: "drag him"].
Even our faith is not of ourselves but it is the gift of God (Eph. 1:8), and
hundreds more such Scriptures. We make "CHOICES": we do not have
"free will" (See Eph. 2:13). Did Paul suddenly "see the error of his
ways" on the road to Demascus, or did God MAKE HIM repent in an instant of blinding
light? Did the King of Babylon "choose" to become a beast in the field for
seven years in order to "BREAK" his own carnal will, or did God FORCE HIM TO DO
SO?
I have heard ignorant ministers and theologians repeat like a broken record as if it were
a Scripture, that: "God will NEVER MAKE a person do anything against his OWN
WILL"! Oh really? And what Bible do you suppose they are reading?
"God is operating ALL according to counsel of His OWN WILL" (Eph. 1:11)!!
And you failed to acknowledge I Cor. 12:3 with reference to Phil. 2:9-11. It is
worst than error to try and compare God's ability to accomplish a task as compared to a
man's ability to accomplish a task. "...no man CAN say that Jesus is the Lord, but BY
THE HOLY SPIRIT." Besides, God did not send His Son to "offer"
salvation to the world, but "To BE the Saviour of the world." To
"be" a Saviour one MUST SAVE. To be the Saviour of the whole
"WORLD," one must SAVE THE WHOLE WORLD!! This is axiomatic.
Does Jesus truly "...TAKE WAY the sin of the WORLD" (John 1:29), "And He is
the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours ONLY, but also for the SINS OF THE WHOLE
WORLD" (I John 2:2), but then TORTURE most of the "whole world" for all
eternity AFTER He takes away ALL OF THEIR SINS?
Your arguments are not with me or with my writings, Norm. I write with the SCRIPTURES.
Your arguments are with the Word of God, not with me.
Even computers can "make choices." That is, in fact, ALL that they can
do--they make millions of choices a second. Are you going to argue that because a computer
can and does make choices, that it has a "free will?"
God be with you,
Ray
P.S. Be sure to read this month's Installment: "The Beast Within Denies Free
Will."
Dear Ray
Thank You so much for your prompt reply to my question, and for the answer. I must tell
you, I found your site quite accidentally (of course, I know now, it was no
accident). I was doing a search for sermons on hell/lake of fire, and a listing showed up
for your website.
I am of Jewish heritage, my parents, siblings, and grandparents
are/were Jewish. As far as I know, I am the only one of us who accepts Jesus as Messiah.
Ray, since being a believer, the one thing that has caused me the most anguish & pain
has been the thought that my grandparents, and, if they don't accept & trust Jesus as
their Saviour, my parents & siblings are/would be suffering in the lake of fire
eternally for rejecting Jesus. Yes, I believed that for 25 years, until I read your
expositions in the 'Lake of Fire' series.
I feel like a babe in Christ all over. I'm excited again, learning
new things as I read your articles, and the scriptures, things that I thought I knew and
understood, but didn't!!
Ray, I'm sure I will have more questions in the future, but for now,
I just want to thank you again, and God for this ministry. Please, keep on keeping on. Do
you have audio tapes of any of these messages? and if not, why not? : )
Gods blessings always,
Mitch 1 Cor 10:31
[Ray Replies]
Dear Mitch:
Glad that our site is helping your spiritual understanding.
The only material I have available at present is what we have posted on the
bible-truths.com site. To tape messages from our conferences, for example, requires
professional equipment, then editing, high-speed duplicators, printing labels, packaging,
addressing, mailing, etc. This requires more money that I have for such a project (I have
a full-time job to support my family, and only I and a couple of my friends and web master
pay for the site which costs thousands of dollars a year). Plus it takes time to do all
the taping, editing, duplicating, printing, packaging, etc. I spend over a hundred hours a
month just answering emails. And then I am also supposed to write a thirty-page
installment for the lake of series each month. Plus I have many other obligations. There
just isn't time or money for it.
God be with you,
Ray
Mr. Smith,
I came across your website a few days ago and I can't stop reading.
I read a few of the emails and can only reiterate what many have said - thank you.
Are you a minister/preacher? How have you obtained this much
knowledge and where do you get the time to write so much. I thank God that you do
(write so much) and please keep on writing. I am surely not the only one to
want to know more about you but I also would understand your reluctance.
Thanks you again so much. I am going to print your documents and
give to a friend of mine who does not have a computer.
Sandy
[Ray Replies]
Dear Sandy:
Thank you for your email and kind words. It is for people just like you that this web site
exists. I hope and pray that you will continue to grow in the grace and knowledge of our
Lord Jesus Christ and His Father of all spirits.
God be with you,
Ray
Dear Ray,
I have never e-mailed you before, but I have a great need to talk to
you. I'm afraid this will be a bit long, because I feel the need to tell you how I
came to be sitting here writing this e-mail today.
I grew up going to church typical of today. (Your going to
hell, the Trinity, Baptized in water, God cannot save all.) As soon as I was married
at 18 I stopped going to church. Through the next 15-16 years of married life, I
believed that the Bible was not inspired of God. How could it be? People were going
to be tormented forever? I could not reconcile that to my belief in the Supreme Being that
I knew created us, but could not be of the Bible where they tormented most of mankind
forever. I thought all religion was of man, in their attempts to control people.
I knew there was a Living God, but I just did not know where to search for the
truth except for in my prayers.
Then one day I got one of those newsletters from the Jehovah
Witnesses. (God's Will) On the front of the cover was a statement that questioned
the belief in hellfire. I was curious. The weekend after I read it, who should
come to call but two ladies from the Jehovah Witness. It was the first
time I came to the knowledge that not everyone who read the Bible did not believe in hell.
So I studied with them for about four months, questioning many of their other
beliefs. That the Watch Tower were the "Faithful & Discreet Slave" as
they said and that I was not supposed to use my mind and question them but trust their
word for it. They had a belief that before the 1000 years ended God would raise all
mankind to get a "Second Chance" at getting it right, but then Satan would be
let loose and dissuade many and these would go onto the second death. I could not
trust their words; All my Bibles , even theirs, clearly said that God will not rouse the
rest of mankind until AFTER the 1000 years. I even remember as I was reading my King
James Revised Bible asking them about God's Will not free-will. And that it clearly
shows once you get rid of the hell stupidity, that God will save all men.
We'll sadly their Bible says "All sorts of men".
We'll I came to realize that though it was God's Will that led them to my door, but that
there was something not quite right with their beliefs. So, I said good-bye and started
searching the internet for churches that did not believe in hell or the trinity.
We'll of course I didn't find any. But I tried a few churches in my area but
could not feel right. Whether they preached on hell or not, their literature
about their church always stated that they believed in the trinity and hell. I just
could not justify studying with people who believed this non-sense. So I tried the
Internet again (God's Will) and typed in the word "Gehenna" and I found the
Concordant Web-site. Well this last year I spent a lot of time reading their
material and I got their Bible. Through this web-site I found the true knowledge of
God's Will not mans and that God will be the "SAVIOR of ALL MANKIND, especially those
that believe." But I slowed down on reading their material because I was often
confused with some of their renderings, and found their explanations difficult to
understand and filled with words I was not familiar with. But my heart soared at my
new knowledge and belief in the Lord and in God the Father. I cherished this new
knowledge and was in total RELIEF that God was in control and not me.
So again I sat at my computer typing in the word "Gehenna"
trying to find an answer to the things I found confusing on the Concordant web-site. Then
by God's will I came upon your web-site about 1-2 weeks ago. I MARVELED IN YOUR
KNOWLEDGE AND SPIRITUAL MATURITY! There was no question in my mind or heart
than I am reading the words and understanding from ONE WHO IS OF THE ELECT. APART OF THE
BODY OF CHRIST! My heart and mind felt such affinity to your words.
I have been consumed in the desire to know God's will in my life.
I meditated on God being in absolute control for a long time. Scriptures
repeat themselves over and over in my mind. God has blessed myself and my husband
with 2 children in the last few years after we thought we would never have any.
(They are 3 & 4 years old) Even when God wasn't calling me to a spiritual
understanding I always thought it would be God's will if I did or did not have children.
I knew I was called but could I possibly one of the few. I still smoke
cigarettes! I realized that God is working on my inside before my habits of flesh.
And when it is his will I will quit. It took me along time to understand
this. I kept feeling miserable because I can't do this simple thing to show my love
for God.
Well last night I finished reading your "Lake of Fire"
series that is posted on your web-site. And I realized in the last installment that
I never had told God in prayer that I ACCEPTED his work in my life. As soon as I
prayed this I felt a "wind" permeate through my body, I felt it for what seemed
like a minute or so. The room was quite, I was laying quietly in bed, but I felt a
presence through me that I can't even begin to explain. At the end it felt like the bed
trembled, but I think it was actually my body. Until the wee hours of the morning I was in
a semi-conscious state, where scriptures and words kept streaming through my mind not
allowing a full state of sleep. When I woke up this morning, I immediately thought
of what happened but wondered if it was just a dream. And if it was indeed a dream
that God gave me that dream. Am I going nuts! I feel I am one of the chosen,
but I can't believe that God would pick someone like me, a nothing.
Has something like this happened to you? Do I just want to
believe it? I find it impossible to believe, but I know that with God "ALL THINGS ARE
POSSIBLE"
God Bless you and keep you,
Mel (Nickname for Melody)
Ray Replies]
Dear Mel:
Actually I have a good acquaintance on Miami Beach named 'Melody."
Thank you for your email and comments. I am over-joyed that your found our bible-truths
site and that it is helpful to you.
I too studied for several months with two very distinguished white-haired gentlemen of the
Jehovah's Witness faith. It was back about 1960. It was interesting, but I never could
fall into full agreement with them on any one subject.
Your feeling of a rush of wind or a strong presence of God in your bedroom may well be a
miracle from God. I have little faith in the many stories of hear from people where they
"talk with Jesus all night," or have visions, or speak in tongues. But just a
warm and strong presence of the nearness of God, can well be something that God would do
to give you a confidence that you are going in the right direction.
I spent a lot of time meditating and then writing on the "Lake of Fire" series,
and it warms my heart when I hear that it has been a blessing to others.
Let me know when you throw away those cigarettes--one of the hardest things I've every
done, and that's the truth. But when God tells your to throw them away, you will throw
them away. I have heard people say that after their last cigarette they never had a single
craving again. That was not the case with me. I even dreamed about smoking YEARS after I
quite. I will pray that God will be merciful when it is your time.
Let me know how you are doing from time to time, okay? Good.
God be with you,
Ray
Please do not be offended by anything
I am writing. If I offend you then it is out of my own lack of understanding. I know God
loves sinners at least human sinners.
Have you confessed your sins and received Jesus Christ as
your Lord and Savior?
God loves the church of Jesus Christ and it is the
spiritual body of Christ. Do you love the church and fellowship with other believers?
What church do you attend and how often?
What church do you recommend that other believers attend?
Jesus and Paul taught and preached in and outside of
physical churches or other places. God wants to restore our broken relationships with
himself and other believers. God loves Christian fellowship. God loves giving. God loves
the poor. God loves sinners. God wants to restore the lost souls through his son, the
living word of God: Jesus Christ. God sends his holy spirit to teach us and guide us.
Do you know the true and living God: the alpha and omega of
whom all truth and knowledge comes from imparted to his true believers by the acceptance
of the power and belief in the sacrificial blood of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of
our sins?
Do you believe Jesus as a man is the sacrificial lamb of
God, his only begotten son, that he died for our sins and rose again and is alive
today,and sits at the right hand of power by God his father?
God wants an open communicating relationship with all whom
love him. He wants to walk in the garden and fellowship with us again.
How many sinners have you lead to Jesus Christ?
Where does the source of your knowledge originate?
A lot of people intellectually and historically know the
bible even demons, saints and our forefathers.
Is the word of Christ a living example of your life?
What are you doing for the body of Christ?
Have you witnessed for Christ?
What has God done for you?
What is your ministry?
Are you a beloved son of God (ABBA Father) in whom he is
well pleased?
Do you destroy or build up the body of Christ?
Are you a Saul or a Paul?
Freely from my spirit and heart I have spoken to you as
freely I have received.
John
[Ray Replies]
Dear John:
Nothing you could say would offend me, so don't apologize.
What I believe is covered in some detail on our bibletruths.com site. It contains
presently approximately 1500 pages.
I fellowship with like-minded believers as often as we are able, since many live long
distances from each other. I do not attend any institutionalized church of men. I am a
member of The Body of Christ--The Church of The Living God.
Most of your questions are silly and demeaning. "Are you [that's me] a Saul or a
Paul?" What kind of question is that? "Do you destroy or build up
the body of Christ?" Do you really expect me to say that "I DESTROY the
body of Christ?" Do you? Well then why ask such a demeaning and stupid
question?
How many sinners have I lead to Jesus? NONE! And neither have you: "NO MAN
C-A-N come to Me [Jesus] except the FATHER [the 'FATHER'--not YOU and not ME, but 'THE
FATHER'!!!] which has sent Me draw him [Greek: 'DRAG him']: and I will raise
him up at the last day" (John 6:44 & 65). We don't bring sinners to Christ,
GOD THE FATHER DOES. Read your Bible, and stop being so 'holier-than-thou."
God be with you,
Ray
First of all, let me say that I
am not saying that you are not a Christian. You very well may be if you have
REPENTED of your sins and have accepted Jesus Christ as your personal Savior. His
grace alone saves, but let me say this.
You are spreading false doctrine, and truthfully you as
well as I know this. Your definition for the Greek word "aion" is correct
when you say that that root "aion" means age but you error when you deny the
instances when this root, and the word "aionian" DOES MEAN ETERNAL.
CONTEXT IS EVERYTHING. Why must you twist the Greek so that you can create you're
own doctrine? You teach all the scriptures concerning God's sovereignty and none of
the scriptures showing man's free will.
I will point out one error that you have made, just to
get specific, as you've asked others to do. You said that Jesus never said that He
would raise Himself, but that He only said that He had the POWER to raise Himself.
You said that God the Father alone raised Him from the dead. The Bible teaches that
God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit (Yes, I do believe in the trinity)
all raised Jesus from the dead. Specifically Jesus said to the Jews in John 2:19,
"Destroy this temple, and in three days I WILL RAISE IT UP." Are you
calling my Lord a liar. Beware, His words are faithful and true.
Jesus spoke more about hell than He did about heaven
because He does not want you to go there, but God didn't make robots, you must make your
choice. Repent of this doctrine, for one day you will be judged for leading many
people astray.
You want to impress me, post this e-mail (unbutchered
by editing) up on your site.
You are a false teacher and I do pray that God looses
Satan's bind on your eyes,
Aaron
[Ray Replies]
Dear Aaron:
You state: "You [that's me] are spreading false doctrine, and truthfully you as
well as I know this." Aaron, that's a lie. I know no such thing.
You state: "...you error [err] when you deny the instances when this root, and
the word "aionion" DOES MEAN ETERNAL." Aaron, "aionion"
NEVER means "eternal." Not in ANY context! Aionion is the adjective
form of the noun, aion and has the meaning of "pertaining to an age." It
is a law of grammar and language that no adjective can take on a greater meaning than the
noun from which it was derived. Therefore, the adjective "hourly" can
never mean "annually." It must always, and in all contexts, pertain to
"an hour" and not a day or a week or a month or a year or an eternity.
You state: "You teach all the scriptures concerning God's sovereignty and none
of the scriptures showing man's free will." Aaron, if there were but ONE
Scripture that showed God is sovereign, then there can not be even ONE Scripture that
shows man's free will. Sovereignty CONTRADICTS the fabled phantom of man's supposed
"free will." Man HAS NO free will. Man has a brain, and with that
brain he has the ability to MAKE CHOICES. Making choices has absolutely NOTHING to do with
the concept of free will. All of our choices are caused by circumstances either
within or without over which we have absolutely no control. We never make a choice that
HAS NO CAUSE. It is a physiological impossibility. Anything that is CAUSED to
happen, is not free. Computers can make choices. In fact, that is ALL they can
do--make choices. But let me assure you that no computer has FREE WILL!
We all have a will, but it is anything but free to do anything without a cause. God has
given us the Scriptural truth about man's supposed free will, but most have no interest in
Scriptural truth whatsoever. Does God say that man can "will" whatever he
wants based on HIS "free" will? Get real:
"For it is GOD which works IN YOU both TO WILL and TO
DO of His good pleasure" (Phil. 2:13).
Who wills in us? We, ourselves? No, GOD! One more
Scriptural proof:
"Now the GOD [remember this word,
'GOD'--not SELF] of peace, that brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus, that
great shepherd of the sheep, through the blood of the everlasting convenient, MAKE YOU
[do you see the different between making yourself or GOD MAKING YOU?]
perfect in every good work TO DO [God is doing the 'doing'] His will,
WORKING IN YOU [it is not your own fabled free will working in you, but GOD!]
that which is well pleasing in HIS sight [GOD'S!], through Jesus Christ;
TO WHOM BE GLORY [we receive NO glory--we did NOTHING!] for ever and ever
[Gk: 'eons of the eons]. Amen" (Heb. 13:21).
You state: "The bible teaches that God the Father, God
the Son, and God the Holy Spirit all raised Jesus from the dead." Aaron, there
is NO SUCH SCRIPTURE. Furthermore, there isn't even the phrase: "God the Holy
Spirit" found anywhere in the Scriptures. And every single Scripture presented to us
after Jesus died, telling us Who raised Jesus from the dead, is ALWAYS God the Father!
Here's just one of many:
"Paul, an apostle, not of men, neither by man, but by
Jesus Christ, and God the Father, WHO RAISED HIM FROM THE DEAD" (Gal. 1:1).
WHO raised Jesus from the dead? Jesus?--NO. The Holy
Spirit?--NO. God the Father?--YES! But will YOU believe the Scriptures?--NO.
You state: "Jesus spoke more about hell than he did of heaven...."
Oh really? If you have a red letter edition of the King James, you will see that it
attributes the word "hell" to Jesus 16 times. Contrariwise, Jesus used the
word "heaven" well over ONE HUNDRED TIMES. All 100+ times that Jesus uses
the word heaven, it is correctly translated. NOT ONE of the times He supposedly used the
word "hell" is it correctly translated. It should be correctly translated
either "hades" (the grave) or "gehenna" (a valley south of
Jerusalem). The modern word "hell" is not the translation of of ANY word
from the Hebrew or Greek manuscripts. And it is being dropped from most modern
versions, as the translators know that "hell" is a fallacious and erroneous
translation.
Your wish is granted. Your email is posted.
Have a nice life,
Ray
You seem to have all of your
noodles, but I have [to] say you are WRONG and I won't be deceived by a demonic partner of
Satan. I know what I know and THERE IS NO CONDEMNATION WITH GOD, you cannot
sway me.
Maybe you should stop and take a look at yourself
because you are a very lonely man.
Lets just SUPPOSE and put your name on the scripture
you quoted... and I think the GIANT PROBLEM lays on your hands!
A CHILD OF THE ONE AND ONLY JESUS CHRIST THE SON OF
GOD.
Lisa
[Ray Replies]
Dear Lisa:
That last comment of yours wherein you call me, "A demonic partner of Satan"
might cost you dearly, Lisa. Especially after I warned you of the seriousness of
attributing the work of God to the devil.
You are wrong about me being "a very lonely man." Lisa, I have a lovely wife and
family, super-great neighbors who would do anything for me (and I for them), thousands of
readers who write me words of encouragement, amazing friends who are brothers and sisters
in Christ, and the constant fellowship with Jesus Christ and God His Father. I attend
conferences where I meet new friends in Christ. I receive and answer 5-600 emails a month.
I talk on the telephone counseling and discussing the word of God for approximately 100
hours of long distance each month. And then, of course, there are my brothers and
relatives back north with whom I visit and converse regularly. LONELY? I don't think so,
Lisa. I am never ever lonely.
What I am about to say, may sound a little harsh, but I assure you it is for your own
edification. It is not possible to truly be "A CHILD OF THE ONE AND ONLY JESUS CHRIST
THE SON OF GOD" and at the same time, be ridiculing and accusing His Word and
Teachings of being that of Satan the Devil.
Since you are quite unable to disprove one single statement of mine in any of a thousand
or more pages, I suggest that you proceed a little more cautiously with you accusations of
condemnation and linking my work with that of Satan. You really are digging a pit from
which you cannot crawl out. You will go into the judgment of the Lake of Fire where these
evils will be purged from your carnal mind.
May God give to you the wisdom to slow down a little and reconsider the enormity of your
sin, Lisa. The infallible Word of God teaches that:
"...the Father sent the Son to be THE SAVIOUR OF THE
WORLD" (I John 2:14).
Lisa, I teach that Scripture every chance I get. The infallible Word
of God teaches that:
"...this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our
Saviour; Who WILL HAVE ALL MEN TO BE SAVED, and to come unto the knowledge of the
truth" (I Tim. 2:4).
Lisa, I teach that Truth a dozen times in my writings. I wrote
multiple whole pages on this one verse in my "Lake of Fire" series, PROVING that
this verse is absolutely TRUE! I also teach I Tim. 4:10 whenever I can:
"For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach,
because we trust in the Living God, Who is the SAVIOUR OF ALL MEN, especially of those
that believe"
It is the signature verse of our bible-truths.com site. Look at the
last entry on our home page.
Here's another one I just love and teach all the time:
"Wherefore God also has highly exalted Him, and given
Him a name which is above every name. That at the name of Jesus every knee should
bow, of them ['things' is not in the original Greek] in heaven, and them
in earth, and them under the earth; And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ
is Lord [THEIR Lord], to the glory of God the Father"
(Phil. 2:9-11).
That's a marvelous Scripture Truth right there, Lisa. I bet I quoted
that verse dozens of times in my writings on bible-truth.com. You don't actually, really,
believe that verse, or ANY of these verses I am quoting to you, do you, Lisa? Of course
you don't. If you did, you wouldn't be calling my writings the work of Satan the Devil.
Here's one of my very favorite verses, Lisa:
"For when Thy JUDGMENTS [that includes the
great white throne judgment and the lake of fire/second death] are in the earth...
[What will happen? What will happen when God's judgments are in ALL THE EARTH,
Lisa?] ...the inhabitants of THE WORLD WILL LEARN RIGHTEOUSNESS"
(Isaiah 26:9).
You don't really believe this verse either, do you Lisa? I mean, you
believe when God's judgments are in the earth people like me with be tortured in hell fire
for all eternity, don't you? No, that's not right. Evil people and unbelievers will
be JUDGED. And that judgment involves the fiery purging of God's DIVINE [Gk: brimstone]
SPIRITUAL FIRE, for God IS "a consuming FIRE" (Heb. 12:29).
Well, there are just a few of thousands of Scriptures I teach on our web site that you
condemn as being "the work of Satan the devil."
If you don't repent of you blasphemy now, Lisa, one day you will be
literally "TORMENTED in the presence of the Lamb." This UN-repented sin of
yours will torment you more than words can ever describe when you are faced with it IN THE
PRESENCE OF THE LAMB OF GOD! You will wish that you could DIE. But you won't be able
to die; you must face your sins, and they WILL TORMENT YOU HORRIBLY! You absolutely
will not be able to believe that you ever ever would say such damnable things about those
who write on the Goodness of God. Think long and hard about what you are doing in your
casual, flippant, sarcastic, know-it-all, holier-than-thou, self-righteous attitude.
I and my staff will pray for your deliverance from the clutches of Satan. And trust me
when I tell you that you are IN THE CLUTCHES OF SATAN!
"GET THE BEHIND ME, SATAN, AND RELEASE LISA FROM YOUR GRASP--IN JESUS NAME!
A-men!"
Ray
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